The Solution to abnormal display after updating Lonsdor K518ISE Key Programmer.

Problem: Click “Immobilizer” button after updating the device, it skips to below interface:

Step 1: After rebooting the device, please press and hold the setting and return buttons(in below red box) simultaneously for few seconds..

Step 2: The following interface appears, please click “uninstall APK” button in the red box, and wait for few seconds.

Step 3: It skips to below interface, please click “OK” to continue.

Step 4: The following interface appears, please click the button in the red box to install factory-set/default APK.

Step 5: Please wait for about half a minute. The factory-set APK is installed and initiates automatically. Then input the password on boot, and click “OK”. It skips to below interface, click “update” in the red box. Remember to reboot the device after updating. You can use it normally now.

Tips & Guides: SBB Key Programmer on Alfa Romeo 156, GT and 147

SBB key programmer:

http://www.autonumen.com/goods-904-SBB+Key+Programmer+Updated+Newest+Version+V33.html

It claims to be able to add immobiliser capability to keys for the Romeo 156, GT and 147. So essentially cut a secondhand key to your immobiliser. This suggests that with this + MES + a physical key cut, you can add a random key to your car.

So, done it?

Here’s what i’ve found. Thinking it’s helpful to someone also.

Big thanks to cromwell!

You can’t just add a random key SBB can program dealer supplied keys or keys that have been prepared specially for the car you want to program it to.

If you want to program a dealer supplied key then AlfaOBD is a better bet. All the Silca SBB’s you will see for sale online are Chinese or Taiwanese clones of a programmer that used to be manufactured by Silca Italy and are of varying quality.

If it screws your car up it won’t be a diy fix.

Yes it is possible to reuse second hand keys but you will either need to be comfortable with surface mount soldering and reading/writing of EPROMs and MCU’s or have a way bigger budget.

You need more than the pin code. You need to prepare the chips in the keys before they will be accepted by the car.

Cloning of existing working keys is possible in most cases.

But properly coding the keys is preferable as clones can cause problems later. Only ones I ever clone are the Hitag chips in the second generation immobiliser on the 156.

In your case with the 156 and GT.

The GT has the keys stored in the body computer. The id’s of the individual keys precode data and pin code are all in the eprom memory of the Motorola/Freescale MCU the MCU is a MC9S12DG256 with mask number 1K79X late models have the mask 0L05H. The chips for the keys are Megamos id48 transponders there are two types magic1 and Magic2. The earlier Magic1 Variants can only be used once the later magic2 type can be unlocked and reused.

If you have the means to read the MCU eprom then I can give you the information you need and/or prepare some chips for you.

The 156 has two different immobiliser types.

The first used from the beginning of production until 2001 has a black immobiliser box this was used on all the cars with red keys and the first of the black keys. If you have a black key with this system you will have a number 2 stamped on the key blade. The chips in the keys are first generation Phillips Cryoto transponders part number for the chip is PCF7935at these transponders can not be cloned. This system has the keys stored in a 93c56 eprom in the immobiliser box. Again if you can read it I can give you the pin code and prepare chips for you.

The second system on the 156 from 2001 until the end of production. Has a blue immobiliser box if you have this system you will have black keys with a number 3 stamped on the key blade.

This system has the keys stored in the eprom memory of the ST MCU. Don’t try and read it it’s secured and won’t end well. The chips in the keys on this system are Phillips HitagII chips and can be cloned onto emulator chips.

Forgot to mention the remote codes for the 156 are different to the one for the immobiliser. The codes can be ordered from the dealer easily enough. Unless the receiver has been swapped for a used one in the past. If it has then the code can be recovered from the memory of the receiver in the boot.

Btw, SBB PRO2 does update a lot, working for cars MY2015. And it offers possibility to 156. But, better off with AlfaOBD or Multiecu scan.

156 via SBB PRO2 key programmer

Lonsdor K518ISE key programmer free update Fiat group in January 2018. Our customer has successfully read pin code on a Fiat Doblo 2010.

Select Immobilizer->Fiat->Europe->Doblo->2009 up->Read Pin Code

Turn ignition switch to ON position with a working key.

If it is smart key, put it close to induction coil.

Communicating

Lonsdor K518ISE read Fiat Doblo pin code success.

New test feedback from Mexican customer: program a smart key to a Ford F-150 year 2015 success by using Lonsdor K518ISE key programmer.

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Review and advice: Launch X431 Pro 3 and Maserati

The Launch X431 PRO 3 scan tool is what interprets the numbers into the algorithm of the clutch wear.

So for instance, if I have a GS in front of me, it will take the closed clutch position and the new closed clutch position. These are the only numbers the NCR provides. The Scan tool is what takes those numbers, subtracts them, divides it from the thickness of a new clutch, multiplies it, and gives you the actual clutch wear. That algorithm is done with the software of the scan tool. So, if that’s off the reading is off, when you write the new parameters into the NCR it will be off, and the PIS will be off. If it misreads the new closed clutch position, with the closed clutch position you have no foundation for the algorithm either.

I can give you an example, I actually did a PPI on a GS about 6 months ago. Well the gentleman selling the car actually took the car to someone I’ve always felt was reputable. So I thought the gentleman selling the car was well to put it lightly embellishing what the actual clutch wear was in order to sell the car. I called the gentleman who did the clutch wear read out, KNOWING there’s no way he misread it. He looked up the data from the receipt and actually confirmed what the guy told me. I was beside myself, but he did read it with the Leo system and the read out was definitely wrong. I double checked my readings, and the algorithm to be sure I read it correctly. My read out was in line with a PPI that was done a year and half earlier by a Maserati dealership using the SD2/3 as well.

My point to this is, even using the Leo he somehow messed up the read out. But that being stated if you had a scan tool that far off to begin with, you don’t want to mess with your car or someone else’s. I’m glad Dave posted this from Aldous because what he is saying is true. If you’re not careful you’ll write something into the NCR that will have a huge impact on the drive-ability of the car. Then once it’s done, how do you get it back to where it was with an inaccurate scan tool? Even with a good scan tool, once you write the new closed position in wrong, when you take the accurate scan tool you’ll be guessing at what it should be new. Round and round it will go.

The only way I can know the accuracy of the scan tool is to have it in front of me, someone asked me about it being a Unicorn if it could do what the gentleman said it could. Now that we have data from a reliable source, namely Voicey/J that has done this, I would say, no it’s not a Unicorn. It’s seems to be a good way to comatose the vehicle you are working on. Seems Jason is echoing the same thing with the updates. So, anyway, I’m glad we had guys chimed in on it before someone did mess their car up.

Download: Launch X431 Pro 3 Maserati Car List

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